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suicide and pessimism

ok i just dont understand
i was just leaving class and ran into a good frnd i hadnt seen in a while
she told me about her two room mates that were extremely upset last night bc one of the guys they went to high school with committed suicide last night
ive also had a frnd committe suicide this last yr
i some wat understand y ppl would want to but does anyone really sit down and think how it would effect their loved ones if they do?
whether they believe ppl care or not theres always someone
how can ppl be so selfish
if they just tried to be optomistic their bound to find somthing
i did

i know its not always that easy and life can get really fucked up
but i believegood things come to those who wait
i hate that some ppl lose the ones they love due to cancer or something like that
but when they purposely kill themselves do they really have any idea wat they're doin to those around them?

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Permalink Reply by Girlycard on November 20, 2009 at 7:17pm: im sorry to hear that you lost a mate like that =[ and imsorry that your mate lost hers too...
but yeah your right it is selfish...its a cry for help but in the wrong way, theres two types of suicide...you got the ones that say oh im gonan kill myself now (emtional blackmail and atention seekers) and then you got the ones that are well messed up (not their fault) but they do it secretly not wanting anyone to find out....sad i know...its a catch 22 with it...and yet suicide is classed as a sin...its like the only time i accept any type of "suicide" is like when you are termaly ill and you aint got long left...some people wanna spend it and live to the full others like old folk wanna be "put to sleep" but thats the only time besides those who do it in secret but for the ones that do it out spiteful and attention seeking so that people will feel sorry for them na-ah! you wanna deal with it...try talking hard i know but youll find that youll get it off your chest better and are ways around it =3 ah thats all i think of lol; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Anne Alise on November 20, 2009 at 7:22pm: thank you and yeah it gets frustrating
i used to be frnds with a guy that would randomly blow up and say he was gonna blow his brains out and it made me so mad bc he used to say it so much
i think its pathetic when ppl do that and ive almost been tempted just to tell them to do it already
i know thats horrible but it brings ppl down around you and if you really wonna make some one sad like that then shut up and do it. theres other ways to get help. i wont lie ive thought about it a few times but i kept it to myself.
ive seen first hand wat it does to ppl and its horrible
besides most ppl that rant on about wanting to do it never will; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Girlycard on November 20, 2009 at 7:34pm: yeah and to be hinest myself so have i but i hvant actually tried it its like a moment of madness really i mean depression does run in my family my mum has it and the shit she goes through, the pain lack of family support (apart from me and my dad) and shes done so well with it i admire her for it, to me shes strong in that repspect....but yeah we all go through that stage of urg i wish i was never born or alive! but we dont mean by it its just sommat you say at a bad time but what can you do? =[; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Anne Alise on November 20, 2009 at 7:41pm: ive found ways by using pain killers or something to make myself relax and i ended being depressed all through out high school thanx to my asthma pills which no one mentioned that that was a side effect *rolls eyes* and im still generally depressed but i handel it better now and have found other ways to deal with it.
and yeah everyone def has their moments but if only ppl would think rashionally (cant spell lol)
theres always option and always ways to deal with things
they just gotta find wat fits them; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Girlycard on November 20, 2009 at 7:47pm: yeah its like me im waiting to hear from a councilor doc gave me anxeity pill and FUCK ME!!!!! i had one! one and i never felt sooo anxious, hands when clammy and numb, breathing was awful couldnt sit had to move about head spinning so i knew then that pills is was not what i needed but a professional =p!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Anne Alise on November 20, 2009 at 7:55pm: my parents dont know im depressed and i keep alot from them
they have enough to deal with and i dont want to add any of my issues
and i do my best to avoid taking pills lol
even tho i really need them in some cases. i have horrible adhd haha it sux
but i guess id rather take those than sit in my dorm for hrs trying to write a paper in like an hr than waste a whole day or even weekend lol; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Girlycard on November 20, 2009 at 8:08pm: lol fair enough just as long as you know what your doing ^^ and that you know that your loved ones are there to help if you do need it =3; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Remmy on November 20, 2009 at 7:47pm: Some people don't have it quite as good as you. I, for one, am sitting in my barracks room on Fort Riley in kansas. If I would have died while I was in Iraq no one would have cared. No friends, loved ones. My family is at war with itself. If I'd been shot or blown up they would move right along with their merry loathsome lives. Sure, for others, their death may hurt those around them, but their "feelings" don't take away the pain. Been on this planet for 21 years, and not once have I found a reason to be optimistic. It's a miracle I haven't yet offed myself.
I'm just saying, sometimes, for some people, suicide is not only an easy choice, but also the best choice.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Anne Alise on November 20, 2009 at 7:51pm: i understand that point of view but im saying for the ones that sure not always in the best situation but do have ppl that care (and im really sorry about ur family and situation :(); ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Girlycard on November 20, 2009 at 7:55pm: (ah its ok were baring but thank you anyway hun ^^)
yeah we just need to get through to them...gently of course but...at the end of the day they want the help cant force them youll drive them away =/ like i said its a catch 22 situation =[; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Sarah on November 20, 2009 at 8:11pm: some people are seriously mentally ill. they are sometimes not able to see the future and the consequences that their actions can have. I was suicidal for a long time. I was very ill, i was on and off of different meds all the time (which CAN CAUSE SUICIDAL ATTEMPTS) medications need to be dealt with very very carefully because one of the biggest side effects of anti depressant medication in young people, is an increase in suicidal behaviour. yes. the pills that they tell you will help, often times make everything MUCH worse. and when you're on the medication you're definitely not always thinking clearly. and if you mess around with the pills, or forget to take them, take too many, etc...you can have very very serious side effects. if you also do a bit of research on the subject of pills you'll find that a large number of homicides are committed by people on these medications. another issue with the pills is that they can cause extremely impulsive behaviour. i know that my reason for wanting to end myself, was that i thought i was being a burden on my family. i didnt want them to have to "deal with me" anymore. i figured that everyone would be much better off if i wasnt there. i didnt (and still dont) see that as selfish. i was, in my weird screwed up way, trying to help my family by "removing the poison" from their lives...the poison being me. now that im off the pills completely and im in therapy i can see a lot clearer now. but when you are in that position, its like being backed into a corner of a burning building and having nowhere to go...except to death.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Girlycard on November 20, 2009 at 8:15pm: i know my mum has been there she was like a zombie..wouldnt eat, speak or anything...shes stable now but there is that possibility that itll happen again =[ so shes on pills for life i think; ▶ Reply to This