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Topic: Internet Safety
I absolutely can't stress the topic of online safety enough, well neither can myspace but do you really pay attention to what myspace says every damn where you leave comments?
"Warning - Please be aware that MySpace is accessed by thousands of users every day; since you do not know every user on the MySpace site, exercise caution when posting personally identifiable information."
Anyway that's just an example, and not exactly the topic of my discussion.
Think about all of these things-
How many online friends and acquaintances do you have?
How many of them have you seen pictures of?
How many of them have you talked to on the phone?
How many of them have you met in person?
Despite any of that, my final question is, how many of them are you SURE ARE what they say?
The internet is the easiest place to lie, and/or spread lies, no one has to worry about facial or verbal expressions being read by the other person, its SO DAMN SIMPLE to make it seem you're something you're really not. You only have what someone says as 'proof' of what they are, nothing beyond that except your own thoughts about it, the first of which you can't change, but the latter you CAN change, and I believe the best way to stay SAFE is to judge things in a logical way instead of based on your impulse and need of belief. Reason I'm posting on this site is that a lot of people say they're vampires and other crap they want someone else to believe(no offense to the real ones, this is simply directed at the liars) and guess what, you actually believed them at least to an extent when all the logic in the world screams at you not to.
As for the pictures part, networking has made it so simple to have thousands of online 'friends' for someone and once they're on your friend list, you have access to all their pictures, which means an online predator would have access to a hell lot of pictures that aren't his own, but he can easily use as his own on a site like this(among many others) which is far away from myspace, facebook and such networks.
I'll put in an example from my experience.
Whitney
She's 30, happily married, with two kids. She meets a person on a popular social networking site. The guy claims to be a vampire, he tells her things he wants her to believe. He tells her he knows about her, things like he can fly and all that, yet gives NO reasonable proof of him being a vampire, or even of his very existence. Two weeks later, he is supposedly dead and she is possible the cause of it for interacting with him and she feels threatened by other "vampires" not to mention STILL obsessed with her friend.
She usually video chats with new people soon after meeting them, yet she has never heard his voice at all. She tries to trace his emails and they reveal a completely different location than he said. His pictures are revealed on Google as of someone else's.
Yet months later she continues to try to find if he did indeed exist and about the 'danger' she faces.
The flaws in Whitney's logic would be, that she believed someone who didn't give her an ounce of evidence that he was anything CLOSE to what he claimed to be. Even after finding out he lied about his own pictures, she still 'believed' him. Even after finding out he lied about his location, she still wants to believe him.
The reason this is so would be that it's supernatural, something out of the ordinary, something everyone craves for knowledge of. But there is a darker side to it, because the supernatural is the "unknown" to most, there are various possibilities as to what one might believe, which makes it easier for a liar to manipulate someone and bend their beliefs.
But... if you think about your own self first, and be RATIONAL when it comes to judging new people. It's not a bad thing to question, it's how you learn, if you don't question for yourself you become puppets in the stage of life.
This is where Google comes in, Google(and mostly wikipedia) are where most liars get there info from. Not to mention popular movies/tv shows and books, and actually also the not so popular ones. If anything someone says/claims to have written something and you have an inkling of doubt that it isn't them really speaking, GOOGLE IT! Install the google toolbar,( http://toolbar.google.com/ ) set it on 'open searches in new tabs' It will only takes a second of your time that way to double check on liars.
However Google is just one step, people often use their wild imaginations or related stuff that might not show up on Google, so the logic part is important as well.
I don't mean to offend anyone with this, not even the liars and fakes, because if someone is manipulated its a two person game.. only one to play best wins, my discussion is simply something for the defensive side in this game to learn from :p
Thanks to anyone if you read all of that.. haha bonus points if you Googled what I wrote to know if I indeed wrote it ;)
Alex
Topic: Internet Safety
I absolutely can't stress the topic of online safety enough, well neither can myspace but do you really pay attention to what myspace says every damn where you leave comments?
"Warning - Please be aware that MySpace is accessed by thousands of users every day; since you do not know every user on the MySpace site, exercise caution when posting personally identifiable information."
Anyway that's just an example, and not exactly the topic of my discussion.
Think about all of these things-
How many online friends and acquaintances do you have?
How many of them have you seen pictures of?
How many of them have you talked to on the phone?
How many of them have you met in person?
Despite any of that, my final question is, how many of them are you SURE ARE what they say?
The internet is the easiest place to lie, and/or spread lies, no one has to worry about facial or verbal expressions being read by the other person, its SO DAMN SIMPLE to make it seem you're something you're really not. You only have what someone says as 'proof' of what they are, nothing beyond that except your own thoughts about it, the first of which you can't change, but the latter you CAN change, and I believe the best way to stay SAFE is to judge things in a logical way instead of based on your impulse and need of belief. Reason I'm posting on this site is that a lot of people say they're vampires and other crap they want someone else to believe(no offense to the real ones, this is simply directed at the liars) and guess what, you actually believed them at least to an extent when all the logic in the world screams at you not to.
As for the pictures part, networking has made it so simple to have thousands of online 'friends' for someone and once they're on your friend list, you have access to all their pictures, which means an online predator would have access to a hell lot of pictures that aren't his own, but he can easily use as his own on a site like this(among many others) which is far away from myspace, facebook and such networks.
I'll put in an example from my experience.
Whitney
She's 30, happily married, with two kids. She meets a person on a popular social networking site. The guy claims to be a vampire, he tells her things he wants her to believe. He tells her he knows about her, things like he can fly and all that, yet gives NO reasonable proof of him being a vampire, or even of his very existence. Two weeks later, he is supposedly dead and she is possible the cause of it for interacting with him and she feels threatened by other "vampires" not to mention STILL obsessed with her friend.
She usually video chats with new people soon after meeting them, yet she has never heard his voice at all. She tries to trace his emails and they reveal a completely different location than he said. His pictures are revealed on Google as of someone else's.
Yet months later she continues to try to find if he did indeed exist and about the 'danger' she faces.
The flaws in Whitney's logic would be, that she believed someone who didn't give her an ounce of evidence that he was anything CLOSE to what he claimed to be. Even after finding out he lied about his own pictures, she still 'believed' him. Even after finding out he lied about his location, she still wants to believe him.
The reason this is so would be that it's supernatural, something out of the ordinary, something everyone craves for knowledge of. But there is a darker side to it, because the supernatural is the "unknown" to most, there are various possibilities as to what one might believe, which makes it easier for a liar to manipulate someone and bend their beliefs.
But... if you think about your own self first, and be RATIONAL when it comes to judging new people. It's not a bad thing to question, it's how you learn, if you don't question for yourself you become puppets in the stage of life.
This is where Google comes in, Google(and mostly wikipedia) are where most liars get there info from. Not to mention popular movies/tv shows and books, and actually also the not so popular ones. If anything someone says/claims to have written something and you have an inkling of doubt that it isn't them really speaking, GOOGLE IT! Install the google toolbar,( http://toolbar.google.com/ ) set it on 'open searches in new tabs' It will only takes a second of your time that way to double check on liars.
However Google is just one step, people often use their wild imaginations or related stuff that might not show up on Google, so the logic part is important as well.
I don't mean to offend anyone with this, not even the liars and fakes, because if someone is manipulated its a two person game.. only one to play best wins, my discussion is simply something for the defensive side in this game to learn from :p
Thanks to anyone if you read all of that.. haha bonus points if you Googled what I wrote to know if I indeed wrote it ;)
Alex
Tags: danger, dangerous, fairies, google, internet, online, predators, safety, vampires
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Permalink Reply by Ophelia on -
Alex, thanks for posting this. There are millions of people in need of this advice - even the most concientious person needs reminding, and as your example shows, age doesn't make people any less susceptible to these sorts of things.
People need to wake up to the dangers of the internet.
And lol, now I have to google it =p
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Permalink Reply by Alex on -
Age is just a number.. it doesn't matter how old you are, it matters what you are when you are, a 12 year old can outsmart a 30 year old in a million ways if he wishes to ¬_¬ Best thing to do would be make good use of what time you do have in a better way than the older "wiser" people did.
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Permalink Reply by Grey Wolf DarkHeart† on -
yeah I heard this story wuite a while ago, this chick had a sis + a bro, and every night after his shower the brother would go into the girls ssisters room, but one day he went into the girls room instead and frothen on he raped the girl every night and when she was an adult and married, eventually her husband convinced her to go to court + tell her sis.
Her brother had raped her + her sis a LOT and a LONG time later, he was in prison cuz of it, long after the younger one was married.
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Permalink Reply by Lizzy on -
Number one: Vampires are very very secretive, so your friend wasn't going to find him anyway. That would and should have been proof enough. (plus never go looking for a vampire, it opposite usually happens)
Number Two: you are correct in saying that people on networking sites tend to lie, the only way to know whether or not they are lying is by talking to them day in and day out. you don't have to talk on the phone, that is just too wierd.
Number three: on this site you are bound to find vampires, Dhampires, Faires, and the like on the site. Each one is different in how they present themselves, but most fake ones tend to go overboard, by changing from a vampire to a werewolf. when there is no such thing.
Number Four: by this discussion you are implying that everyone on this site is a liar, and therefore should google it. Have you ever heard of lying on paper. i google to check if my past life experiences are correct, or i go to the library. That is right i go to the library to make sure i see what see and know what i know. Not everyone is dangerous, but again, the reader would have to use their own intellegence to make sure they are not someone else's prey.
In a nutshell: i find this discussion rather offensive, yet true. you are saying that people on here are liars if they say they are vampires or if they say they are something they are not. Just b/c you don't see a pic, or hear their voice. you are also saying that ALL the ANSWERS are in the Google and Wikipedia website (which has been banned to use for College schools and such) to look up discrepencies in what people are saying. Have you no intellegence into what you read? do you not discern what is truth and what if false? I realize you didn't mean to offend anyone, but truely you are making yourself look rather ignorant.
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Permalink Reply by Grey Wolf DarkHeart† on
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I tihnk she's mainlt trying to asy that if someone talsk to you on here, and ends upi convincing you to meet up with them, they're more likely to be some asshole pervert rapist or some shit, even chatting to them on the phone... hah thats why mum a few days ago, gave me a lecture and to tell her if someone asks to meet up with me or something.....
anyway, it's not just WHAT they claim to be (psycich, vampire, shapeshifter, can read minds etc) but mainly who, male or female, and how old.....
tehre could be a 17 year old girl that meets up with an '18' year old guy, who SAY'D he's 18 but turns out to be, as Weirdo Kathy said, a 45 year old man.....
they could even be saying they're a chic even if they're a dude and rape the other person, whether the other person is a boy or a girl.....
some assholes are just like that, and shouldn't be alive, walking on this earth..... or any planet, for that matter
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